1. Give a quick definition of “salvation” and include this in the post.
2. Read Exodus 15:1-21.
3. How does Moses define salvation in his song?
4. If there are any differences, what can we learn from this?
Remember to post and reply to another student by Thursday.
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September 16, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Abby Black
***Wllson I think you mean for us to read Eodus 15 which is the song of Moses ot Genesis 15 .***
September 16, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Abby Black
I think that salvation is being saved from our sin by Jesus dying on the cross so we can live eternally. Moses wanted salvation from a physical enemy. Either way, Salvation is an act of the LORD delivering and saving us.
September 16, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Mr. Willson
Abby, you’re right- good catch. It’s fixed now.
September 17, 2008 at 9:21 am
Kat Falvey
I looked up the definition of salvation and this is what I got…
“1. the act of saving or protecting from harm, risk, loss, destruction, etc.
2. the state of being saved or protected from harm, risk, etc.
3. a source, cause, or means of being saved or protected from harm, risk, etc.”
All of them say protected from harm. Moses and his people were protected from harm. God split the red-sea so they could not be harmed. Moses defines salvation as the Lord protecting them and helping them get away from the enemy. And that Gods unfailing love will lead the people. The kind of salvation that we usually use is believing in God and believing that His son died on the cross for us. The salvation Moses was using was physical salvation. That God would protect them from evil. We can learn that both of them sort of come together. Because we believe in Christ and have salvation God will protect us from harm that comes our way and we will battle the enemy together with God.
September 17, 2008 at 9:23 am
Kat Falvey
@Abby
I agree. Either way the Lord is saving us. Salvation is God saving us. Either way we use it there is some part in it that will always mean “An act of the LORD delivering and saving us”
September 17, 2008 at 11:31 am
Adam Tindel
To me, salvation is being saved from harm. And the only one who can give us salvation is God. Moses defines salvation as God’s protection and guidence from harm. God guided Moses and the Israelites out of Egypt, and then protected them from the Pharaoh’s army. There is no salvation as strong as the salvation that we get from the Lord.
September 17, 2008 at 11:32 am
Kyle Hardin
1. Salvation in my opinion, is the crucifiction of Jesus Christ in order to save all of us. He took all our sins upon himself just so we would be saved from eternity in hell.
2. Done
3. Moses defines salvation as God’s deliverance of him and the Israelites through the Red Sea. God kept them safe, but with his almighty power which is emphasized in the book, he wiped out the enemy or “threw them into the sea”.
4. There only difference i notice are there are different kinds of salvation. God saved the Israelites from the Egyptian army and Jesus saved all of us from eternal death. From this we can learn that salvation can come in many different forms from, as i said before, Jesus dying on the cross or it could just be saving a person from an injury.
September 17, 2008 at 11:34 am
Adam Tindel
@ Abby and Kat
You are both right. God can give us salvation from our sins, and he can give us a physical salvation from our enemies, or any obstacles that come our way in life.
September 17, 2008 at 11:35 am
Kyle Hardin
@Adam
Here’s a twist. I believe Adam is partially wrong! He said only God gives us salvation. That is partially true, but he gives us the ultimate salvation, as in saving us from hell. Other people can give you salvation too. But you are partially right. No one’s salvation is as strong as God’s…. No one can be as forgiving as God.
September 17, 2008 at 11:59 am
Jason Mills
Salvation is to be saved from danger, harm or death. Jesus is our savior who came down and saved us from sin. In Moses’s song, he sings of being saved from the Egyptians by the miraculous power of God, that God was the only one who could of saved the Israelites, just as Jesus is the only one who can save us from sin.
September 17, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Jason Mills
@Kyle
I think you have a good point, but I would say that salvation is the same but there are different levels of salvation. All salvation is to protect someone but some time when you need to save someone there is a higher cost to you and a higher threat that they need saving from.
September 17, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Mr. Willson
Good stuff so far. Another idea to think about after reading the passage is how the prophets often spoke to Israel. Or even how God spoke the first beginning of the gospel in Genesis 3. The idea of redemption and judgment being linked together.
September 17, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Anna Gosnell :)
Salvation means to be saved from harm or death. I think in Moses’ song, God saved them from physical death. If the Egypetians had caught them, they would have been killed on the spot. Jesus saved us to, but more from spiritual death. God will save us, but we need to have total faith and trust in Him and believe that he will get us through it.
September 17, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Anna Gosnell :)
@ Kat
I agree with Kat. God will always come and fight the battle with us, but we need to call on Him and trust in Him completely, even though sometimes that is easier said than done.
September 17, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Susan Bowerman =)
I think that Salvation means being saved from harm, or things that would hurt us. Moses defines salvation in his song by saying that God protected the Israelites from the Egyptians, and God showed the Israelites how much he loved them and that they were his chosen people. The only differences are spritial and physical salvation.
September 17, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Susan Bowerman =)
@ Kat =)
I totally agree with Kat and how we have physical and sprititual salvation. And that God has unfailing love for us.
September 17, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Jonathan Solwick
I think that salvation is believing that we are sinners and that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and that he was raised again after 3 days. Moses defines salvation as trusting in God for everything and that God can do anything and he will take care of us. I think one of the few differences there are just that Jesus hasnt come yet so they cant trust that He died on the cross for our sins. But i think a similar thing is that we both believe that God is all powerful and will take care of us and lead us.
September 17, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Jonathan Solwick
@ Kyle
I agree that Moses defines salvation as deliverence from the Egyptians. I also agree that the only real differences are that Jesus delivered us from sin and God delivered the Israelites from the Egyptians. We both believe that God is all powerful and can save us from anything including Hell. I also agree that Kyle read Exodus 15:1-21.
September 17, 2008 at 2:58 pm
kyle brandon
Salvation is believing that Jesus died for our sins. Moses defines salvation by God’s strength and all the majestic things he did to save the Israelites from Pharaoh’s soldiers at the Red Sea. The difference is that Moses’ salvation is physical and true salvation through Jesus is spiritual.
September 17, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Kyle Brandon
@ Jonathan
I agree with both of Jonathan’s definitions of salvation. I liked that he showed that you can learn from both similarities and differences in a situation. Jonathan’s comments show a lot of thought.
September 17, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Art Sloan
Salvation:being delivered from sin and the consequences there of.
Moses defines salvation as: the lord throwing down his enemies
the differences: our salvation is God saving us from spiritual death from sin, Moses was the Lord saving the Israelites from physical death by the sword.
September 17, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Art Sloan
@Kyle @Adam
I sort of agree with Kyle, but, people can only give us physical salvation, which, even then, would that be considered salvation? I think only god can give actual salvation, and the best people can do is try to imitate it.
September 17, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Taylor K Williams
i looked up the defination of Salvation and this is what i found,
1. the act of saving or protecting from harm, risk, loss, destruction, etc.
2. the state of being saved or protected from harm, risk, etc.
3. a source, cause, or means of being saved or protected from harm, risk, etc.
In Exodus 15 I think Moses is just explaining salvation as protection. I think that really the whole story of Moses is about protection, Moses had to trust that the Lord would provide Salvation.
Salvation for us and Salvation for Moses was i feel was very different, but as i really thought about it, it really is not that different. God gave as much Salvation to us as he gave to Moses. I mean, for Moses and Israelities it was really easy just to really feel and see Salvation, but because we are not facing as many trials as they did i think it is a little hard to find the Lords Salvation.
September 17, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Taylor K Williams
@ Kat
i just relized i did the same thing as you with the definitions haha
i definately agree with ya. for the Isrealities it was more of a physical salvation.
September 17, 2008 at 8:56 pm
alec lantagne
@Taylor
I looked up salvation also: the third definition was spiritual rescue from sin and death; redemtion. i think moses was talking about physical rescue and defeat of his enemies, but also spiritual salvation. i think because moses had seen God and been so close to god that he thought of god in eternal, spriritual ways. I like that he call the Lord a warrior.
September 17, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Kaitlyn O'Brien
I think that salvation is being saved from harm because Jesus died on the cross for us. I think that Moses’ song was more about God saving himself and all of the Israelites physically from the Egyptians when He drowned them, because they would have killed them. ( I think its really cool that He can would protect His people like that) The main difference was that Moses was saved physically instead of spiritually.
September 17, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Kaitlyn O'Brien
@Anna Gosnell
I agree with you on everything Anna. Especially that He will save us as long as we believe and trust in Him. He will always help us through any troubles that we go through in life.
September 17, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Katrina Faith Nolette
To me Salvation is Gods blood covering over us and wiping away our sins, and us excepting that and being saved.
3. How does Moses define salvation in his song? I think that Moses defines salvation as God taking care of his enemy’s, and being his strength and his song. In my opinion Exodus 15 is also just Moses Declaring Gods name and everything that he is, as well as a few things God has done and can do.
I think the difference is between spiritually being saved and really physically being saved from the hand of your enemy.
September 17, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Liz Laughridge
When I think of salvation, I think of God sacrificing his son,and coming down to save us and set us free from whatever our bondage was. Moses describes how amazing, and powerful God is, and how he freed the Israelites from the Egyptians. Moses expresses so many powerful words, and shows God’s true sovereign glory. I think we can learn so many thing from this passage, including that we never should doubt God, or say that he is not enough. He is clearly so much more than we can ever begin to imagine.
September 17, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Liz Laughridge
@ Kat
I love how you wrote that their are 2 kinds of salvation, both spiritual and physical. I know that I would probably have never thought of it that way.
September 17, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Katrina Faith Nolette
@ Jason Mills who was talking @ Kyle Hardin ^_^
I would agree that people need different amounts of saving or “salvation” but I don’t think that different people get different amounts of salvation. If thats not what u meant then pardon me
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September 17, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Abby Black
@kat
I really like the wayu kat put it,”we will battle the enemy together with God.” I think that sometimes we forget that salvation applies to us today as well and no matter what we are going through or if things seem bad, we still have the salvation of the LORD who is battleing the enemy with us.
September 18, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Carly Johnson
salvation to me is a free gift, period. its God’s gift to us. i think we need to remember, that God is ALWAYS there for us, even though in our human, un rightious way we find it hard to comprehend that.